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Sony refreshes HDV line- HVR-S270U and HVR-Z7U

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  1. ajay
    November 17, 2007 at 5:07 am

    Is it really that hard to create a 2/3 chip camera with interchangeble lenses that can record to a widely used flash media for under 10k? I would love to see anycamera manufacturer step up and fill that void

  2. November 17, 2007 at 1:34 pm

    Yes it is that hard. One of the biggest costs (aside from R&D) is the imaging chips. Camcorders with three 2/3″ imagers (tube or CCD) have primarily been broadcast. That level of gear has typically been $20,000 and up. The market for that level of camera is decreasing as more and more production uses “off the shelf” prosumer and even consumer camcorders. With a dwindling market, there is no reason for any manufacturer to waste valuable R&D to make expensive camcorders with larger imaging chips.

    If chip size is that important to you, then look at some of the fastest DSLR cameras. Very large single chip (you didn’t say three chips, frame rates approaching 24p, recording to numerous flash media, and a wide selection of interchangeable lenses.

  3. November 17, 2007 at 10:28 pm

    I find it incredibly funny that a segment of my comment from FreshDV was placed here under a name that is very similar to mine.
    http://www.freshdv.com/2007/11/sony-announces-hvr-z7u-and-hvr-s270u-pro-cameras.html#comment-22723

    Is it really that hard? Sony offers 1/2 chip in the EX1. Interchangeble lenses & compact flash recording in these new cameras. Besides the S270, there are priced for under 10k. Is it that far off to expect that the EX1, for example, could have an interchangeble lens option for another 2k? Not to me.

    1/2 chip to 2/3 chip is a big step in terms of production cost (not sure about R&D, since they seem to have every technology already in place to deal with it). But let us not get carried away, shall we?

    The prices are reflective of what Sony believe they can get for the products. People aren’t knocking down doors for these options. I sure wish they would.

  4. November 17, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    As for knocking down the doors… I think Sony has really provided a slew of incredible features at a very nice price point with these latest HDV camcorders. There will always be people who demand more. And for those people there is RED, Genesis, and Silicon Imaging. Higher end options are available- at higher end prices.

  5. jose yactayo
    December 4, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    does anybody know if this new model’s (Z7)compression rate is 4:2:2 or 4:1:1 ?

  6. December 4, 2007 at 10:48 pm

    These are HDV camcorders. They follow the HDV spec and use MPEG-2, giving us a 4:2:0 color space in HDV. This is not so bad because it matches the 4:2:0 DVD color space, as opposed to DV which is 4:1:1 and, mathematically, when you get to DVD from DV you have 4:1:0.
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  7. paul
    December 31, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    Is it Genlockable?

  8. January 1, 2008 at 8:38 am

    The big camera has a Genlock port. The small camera lacks a dedicated jack for genlock, but Sony indicated some sort of bi-directional SDI genlock. I don’t know the specifics on this. It might enable single-cable hookup if it were true.
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  9. February 15, 2008 at 11:48 am

    Here’s the link to the first hand-on review of the Sony Z7U that I posted on VU.
    http://www.videouniversity.com/forums/gforum.cgi?post=417193

  10. March 5, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    Hello I just picked up the z7u. I like it so far, even though i havent had a chance to use it on a hob. One dumb question. If I shot HDV mode. then want to capture the footgae, do I use teh Firewire cable like I do now with my PD170 footage? does it degrade anythink.. is the iLink cable different, or it basicaly a fire wire cable with a bigger end.

  11. March 6, 2008 at 12:19 am

    HDV is the same data rate as DV. That’s how it uses the same tape and mechanism. If your editing program supports HDV natively, then the ingest process is the same. If your program needs a transcode (like iMovie does) then the computer will take in HDV but convert it to something else to edit with.

    The physical cable has not changed. It’s the same 6-pin or 4-pin cable we’ve had for well over a decade.

    Anthony

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